I lived in Cincinnati and saw Wussy twice (during the Attica! era!) when I lived there and I KNOW they're not better than a lot of these bands. This is compensating. Now, if you include Ass Ponys, you might have a case, but this is like the NYT list, where Morrison got a book, and Lydia Davis got a book based on what they did before even though they haven't done nothing in the 21st century.
Our love for DBT is pure and justified. They're a 21st century band. An American one, in fact.
Assume your partner hasn't heard T-ara or the question mark would've come a couple of beats sooner. Also, Autobiography and I Am Me are rock albums (as in R.O.C.K. In The USA, the drummer on which is on half of Autobiography, and if you legitimately say, "Well, she's *pop*-rock" say it about Scarecrow too), and their virtues are rock virtues, a push towards roughness and pain as The Real, and lyrics to think about: try "Love Me For Me" (w/ Shelly Peiken in place of Kara on the credit sheet) and "Better Off." Also rock sources, not just the obvious Courtney Love vocal stylings but, e.g., how "Shadow" lifts from "Dear Prudence" and "Baby, You're A Rich Man" (thanks to Edd Hurt who, when visiting, was listening to it hard and said "White Album" after a few bars).
Here's Dave Moore, Kill Me, Kill Me, Kill Me, from October 2007:
Oh, and I think it was Lex (Alex Macpherson) who pointed out that lines 3 and 4 of "Better Off" could almost be a haiku (5-7-6 instead of 5-7-5):
I spilled my coffee
It went all over your clothes
I gotta wear mine, now
And here in those eighteen words she's introduced us to the fact, without specifically telling us, that she's in a relationship with a "you" whom she's close enough to that they're wearing each other's clothes, a casual sharing, this while the lines move forward the theme set up in lines 1 and 2 – mishaps, problems, things going wrong, but it's all right somehow.
They should be studying Ashlee in writing workshops.
Did Lex write that?I wonder if I swiped it from him unconsciously, was something I noticed when writing about it but I wouldn't be surprised if he got there first and I just forgot.
Maybe it was you! Anyway, whoever it was said it publicly, probably at the https://poptimists.livejournal.com LJ community but possibly on one of our own individual LiveJournals, yours or mine or Lex's or Erika's or someone else's, or possibly on Rolling Teenpop - though my memory says Lex was part of the conversation, and I don't think he was ever on Rolling Teenpop, and I'm guessing it wasn't on your blog either, therefore. Unless it was.
A search of my computer says I never downloaded the convo, but it does reveal an impromptu haiku challenge that you started on my LiveJournal that required that the third line be "And Britney Spears songs."
if you remember it from LJ or ILX it had to have been Lex, I didn't mention it until writing about it many years later for Tumblr. Now that you say it, it sort of rings a bell, unlike my Britney Spears haiku challenge, which I've forgotten about completely (but is a good challenge)
Fascinating...let's just say that if I'm at a party with the winning voters, I ain't giving up the AUX easily, LOL!
Drive-by Truckers!!!
I lived in Cincinnati and saw Wussy twice (during the Attica! era!) when I lived there and I KNOW they're not better than a lot of these bands. This is compensating. Now, if you include Ass Ponys, you might have a case, but this is like the NYT list, where Morrison got a book, and Lydia Davis got a book based on what they did before even though they haven't done nothing in the 21st century.
Our love for DBT is pure and justified. They're a 21st century band. An American one, in fact.
Morrison's Love was great! (Admittedly more like decade-great than century-great.)
Assume your partner hasn't heard T-ara or the question mark would've come a couple of beats sooner. Also, Autobiography and I Am Me are rock albums (as in R.O.C.K. In The USA, the drummer on which is on half of Autobiography, and if you legitimately say, "Well, she's *pop*-rock" say it about Scarecrow too), and their virtues are rock virtues, a push towards roughness and pain as The Real, and lyrics to think about: try "Love Me For Me" (w/ Shelly Peiken in place of Kara on the credit sheet) and "Better Off." Also rock sources, not just the obvious Courtney Love vocal stylings but, e.g., how "Shadow" lifts from "Dear Prudence" and "Baby, You're A Rich Man" (thanks to Edd Hurt who, when visiting, was listening to it hard and said "White Album" after a few bars).
Here's Dave Moore, Kill Me, Kill Me, Kill Me, from October 2007:
https://cureforbedbugs.com/post/92171208968/from-the-archives-ashlee-simpson
Dave links my now long-incinerated MySpace, but fortunately I double-posted on my LiveJournal, here's the link:
https://koganbot.livejournal.com/22904.html
I like how "Love Me For Me" holds up really well in a Brooks & Warren type close analysis.
Oh, and I think it was Lex (Alex Macpherson) who pointed out that lines 3 and 4 of "Better Off" could almost be a haiku (5-7-6 instead of 5-7-5):
I spilled my coffee
It went all over your clothes
I gotta wear mine, now
And here in those eighteen words she's introduced us to the fact, without specifically telling us, that she's in a relationship with a "you" whom she's close enough to that they're wearing each other's clothes, a casual sharing, this while the lines move forward the theme set up in lines 1 and 2 – mishaps, problems, things going wrong, but it's all right somehow.
They should be studying Ashlee in writing workshops.
Did Lex write that?I wonder if I swiped it from him unconsciously, was something I noticed when writing about it but I wouldn't be surprised if he got there first and I just forgot.
Maybe it was you! Anyway, whoever it was said it publicly, probably at the https://poptimists.livejournal.com LJ community but possibly on one of our own individual LiveJournals, yours or mine or Lex's or Erika's or someone else's, or possibly on Rolling Teenpop - though my memory says Lex was part of the conversation, and I don't think he was ever on Rolling Teenpop, and I'm guessing it wasn't on your blog either, therefore. Unless it was.
A search of my computer says I never downloaded the convo, but it does reveal an impromptu haiku challenge that you started on my LiveJournal that required that the third line be "And Britney Spears songs."
if you remember it from LJ or ILX it had to have been Lex, I didn't mention it until writing about it many years later for Tumblr. Now that you say it, it sort of rings a bell, unlike my Britney Spears haiku challenge, which I've forgotten about completely (but is a good challenge)
(I should clarify that the alleged "rockist" in question voted for Celine Dion)
A) The Kanye joke made me literally LOL.
B) Boo on the Clube not ranking. My life mission has failed.